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    Posted: 09 February 2024 at 19:01
I would change the bulb (2,85m) with a shorter(2,45). 
Anyone knows the costs? The mast remain the same?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wayne's World Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2024 at 19:38
Raniero,

Go to the Hanse Shop at www.hanse.boatoon.com they list 3 keels for the 548 of different weights - a deep T type at 5800kg, a "standard" L type at 6377kg and a shoal draft L type keel of 6620kg. I think you will find the mast height remains unchanged but the shallower option keels are heavier. They don't list prices for these on the website so I guess you need to email them.  
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I have a 545 not 548
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Captain Cook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2024 at 19:51
The cost af a new keel is €25000????, and I doubt that the market for the old keel is great? The prices here may give you an idea: https://hanse.boatoon.com/en/shop/suche
- and since most of the keels here are not priced, you can ask Boatoon for a quote.

In my opinion the smartest solution is to sell the old boat, and purchase another new/used Hanse with shallow draft. 
Especially in the Netherlands there are quite a few boats with shallow draft around the water that was called Zuiderzee when I was younger.
(Today IJsselmeer/Markermeer). My Hanse 400 has a draft of 2 meters, so I had to avoid shallow parts of that area when I visited in 2012 and 2015.
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Edited by Captain Cook - 09 February 2024 at 19:57
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I completely agree with Kjeld: buy another boat. There are all sorts of calculations that underpin the selection of a particular keel and I would very strongly advise you to seek advice from a suitably qualified and experienced professional if you still want to research that route.  Anything less is a gamble with your boat and those on it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Raniero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2024 at 08:02
Another solution may be change my 545 with another 545 with shorter Keel . If there is someone that want do this change . My boat is in Adriatic sea . 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote S&J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2024 at 03:19
I have some sympathy.  I am somewhat surprised to see the standard draft for the 545 is 2.8m.  My very first experience of the Hanse brand was a 470 with a 2.35m draft based in Fremantle, WA.  The main "destination" for sailing around here is Rottnest which has very limited moorings or anchorages for a boat with this draft.  I enjoyed a great cruise with the owner to the Abrolhos Islands off Geralton, but the owner only kept the boat a couple of seasons before swapping for a catamaran.
So far I haven't found the 2.25m draft of my 458 an issue anywhere in the Mediterranean although my depth reading was zero when we went into the harbour at Nisyros last season.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wild Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 hours 15 minutes ago at 19:33
I am not surprised of the 25.000 euro for the 2,43 keel.
When we ordered our 545 in 2010 the extra cost for the 2,43 keel =13.000 euro 
The 2,43 keel upper part is cast iron and the lower part lead.The 2,80 is complete cast iron and so far I remember in one part.
I happy Smilewe ordered the 2,43 a 2,80 in the small harbor’s of the Med. is a pain in the …Cry

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raniero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 hours 2 minutes ago at 19:46
Actually the cost for the substitution of the Keel is 40-45000€
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Black Diamond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5 hours 42 minutes ago at 01:06
Have you checked with the Mars Metal people?   They make keels to replace the factory keels for a lot of boats.  In general, they are much higher quality and can provide sailing stability with less draft.  

If I was going to buy a new keel,  I'd look there before Hanse.    This is who I was dealing with a while back..

William Souter

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(905) 637-3862 | (800) 381-5335 | FAX (905) 637-8841

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