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   Hi,
Interesting discussion, but ...the comparison between ships depend heavily on the sails it has. Our 375 last year with the regular sails and fixed blade propellor had max. STW of 5.5knts in true wind of 7 knts (at about 70° app.wind) We changed prop to maxprop and put on a code 0 this year. Now in the same 7knts of wind our max. STW is almost 7 knts...
Furthermore: i read in this topic that a grand soleil 50 had no major speed advantage compared to 385, although the grand soleil has undoubtedly much more waterline length. Stating then that the few cm. of difference in waterline between a 370 or 375 and 385 makes all the difference is making me smile 
When i compare 370 or 375 to 385 i see some differences which all have to do with price:
- 385 has 2 less winches.
- 385 is essentially a smaller ship than predecessors
- Despite being shorter, it is advertised as a 385, meaning a 38 foot at an advertised price of about the 375.
To me this seems more of a commercial trick to battle against for instance Bavaria.

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kweetje Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 15 September 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 360	Post Options Post Reply Quote kweetje Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 November 2011 at 08:17
	Hi, Interesting discussion, but ...the comparison between ships depend heavily on the sails it has. Our 375 last year with the regular sails and fixed blade propellor had max. STW of 5.5knts in true wind of 7 knts (at about 70° app.wind) We changed prop to maxprop and put on a code 0 this year. Now in the same 7knts of wind our max. STW is almost 7 knts... Furthermore: i read in this topic that a grand soleil 50 had no major speed advantage compared to 385, although the grand soleil has undoubtedly much more waterline length. Stating then that the few cm. of difference in waterline between a 370 or 375 and 385 makes all the difference is making me smile When i compare 370 or 375 to 385 i see some differences which all have to do with price: - 385 has 2 less winches. - 385 is essentially a smaller ship than predecessors - Despite being shorter, it is advertised as a 385, meaning a 38 foot at an advertised price of about the 375. To me this seems more of a commercial trick to battle against for instance Bavaria.
	First 4000 miles, no substantial problems

kweetje Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 15 September 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 360	Post Options Post Reply Quote kweetje Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 January 2012 at 09:42
	We went to Boot last WE and visited the 385. I am happy and will stay happy with our 375 :)
	First 4000 miles, no substantial problems

Ian Robinson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 24 November 2005 Location: Essex UK Status: Offline Points: 246	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Robinson Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2012 at 17:59
	Dear All, The 385 may well be faster on a like for like basis than a 370 or 375, but not when it is hooked to a lobster pot by its torpedo keel. Regards Ian
	Ostara a 370#88

Mikki Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 24 February 2008 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 172	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mikki Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 2012 at 14:03
	Hello there, With my this year's trim I make in 7 m/s true wind (13,5 knots) at 30 app. degree 7 knots on average. Although no big waves. I think that's pretty good. BR, Mikki Edited by Mikki - 30 May 2012 at 14:04
	Mikki

kweetje Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 15 September 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 360	Post Options Post Reply Quote kweetje Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2012 at 11:40
	at 6 knots wind i measured 6.5 knots trough water. This was on our 375 with code 0 sail in front :)
	First 4000 miles, no substantial problems

Mikki Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 24 February 2008 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 172	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mikki Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 June 2012 at 11:57
	Way to go :)
	Mikki

capowers Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 16 July 2012 Location: CT USA Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote capowers Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 July 2012 at 04:52
	We just got back from a 14 day tour on our new Hanse 385 and the boat was spectacular sailed beautifully- handles like a dream I (the wife) was at the helm doing 9kts in over 18 knts wind and felt very secure she is so smooth just glides through the water she is also very comfortable down below... and the swim platform is like an additional sunroom I love our new boat.



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