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    Posted: 18 April 2018 at 22:21
Hi,

I've just seen your neat idea of drilling an hole in the floor of a Hanse 320 to get to water in the bilge at the lowest point. Do you remember where the hole was drilled?

Many thanks,

Luke 
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It's salt water. I will check on the anchor well as suggested by our man in Greece. I have spoken to the Hanse office in Hamble and it has been suggested I check any cable runs from the anchor locker also, and also take out the self tapping screws fixing the toe rail and re bed in sikaflex, together with the bolts holding the mooring cleats which evidently screw into an aluminium plate. I will let you know if I get a result.
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Hi,

It is most probable the anchor well!
When you inspect it in the marina everything appears to be perfect, but in rough seas the chain is hopping and pushing the bottom of the well open!
Sea water enters under the chain box and enters the front cabin!

To test this possibility you have to remove the chain and have somebody jump inside the box while inspecting the edges. You might be surprised!
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30 Cíest de líeau douce bomou de líeau sale?

 

:Welcome: Itís fresh water bomor salt water ?

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We have just returned from sailing around Britain and had a lot of trouble with water coming in and flowing over the floor boards. We have previously had trouble from split bathing shower pumps, but not this time. Some times there was water in the main cabin, but mainly in the fore cabin.
 
The main problems arose whenever we had a beat to windward in a stiff breeze, with water coming over the bow. The water came into the fore cabin and the mattress was often wet, with water filling the small wooden shelves on occation. We had to lift the floor boards several times to dry out.
 
The water seemed to be coming in somewhere behind the wooden cabin lining. Some times there was white powder also.
 
I have tried looking for possible sources but can only think it must be getting in where either the toe rail or mooring cleat on the port side is fixed (It only leaks on starboard tack).
 
Has anyone else experienced this ? If so, any suggestions for solving the problem?
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Poole Pirate - you speak about water getting into the bilges.
Do you have water dripping down from the forward hatch or from around the mast support ceiling area and on to the floor. We had this. In the former case the screws and frame externally were re-sealed and the problem cured. In the latter, we sealed the external "U" tube which takes cables from the bottom of the mast and into the boat with Duct tape and forming a witches hat to cure the problem (waves over the foredeck splash up this "U" tube).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote poole pirate Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2012 at 11:18
Thanks for the suggestions John. There is bilge water in lots of totally inaccessable places it seems. We have a small hand pump to pump out what we can reach. We have just replaced the float switch and re wired the bilged pump, but as you say, it is in a stupid place. Why are there no linking holes through the bulkheads?
 
We do have the switch by the sink wired in, but will try to isolate it to test the shore power. I might wait until my electrician comes to sort our instruments out. We are stuck in Falmouth for a few days.
 
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Good morning Poole pirate,

 It was me who had the same problem with water in the bilge, shorting out the shore power electrics. For this to happen bilge water is being pushed into the area below the galley sink as the boat is heeling in a heavy sea. You should also check the storage area beneath the saloon starboard seating area, as the bilge water can also splosh into that area.

The electrics in question is the connection from the main panel to the area below the sink so that a power supply can be fitted as an extra. As the supply is not used, the cables are taped up and left in the area below the access panel under the sink. The bilge water reaches them and shorts out, hence the tripping of the shore power. Solution is to dry out the leads and/or disconnect them from the power supply.

 The existing bilge water can be pumped out from under the floor boards near the heads door. You can see the area from earlier photos. The bilge pump fitted to the Hanse 320 is of little use unless there is huge amounts of water entering the bilge. Why the pump was not fitted lower down is beyond me!

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Re white powder

was the last owner making lots of regular night trips ?
I get a small amount of white glassfibre dust on the saloon bunks after a rough sail even after 8 years
It is caused by the large amount of debris trapped over the headlinning at manufacturing stage & is not a problem ( apart from having to dust it up)
 
Re the leak
Not all forecabin leaks are through the hatch. If We take a big sea over the bow & fill up the anchor well it somehow leaks into the lockers under the bunks & the leading edge of the cusions get wet. It seems to come in roughly near where the pulpit rear legs are situated.  it is not actually the bolt holes that leak but the bulkhead at the back of the locker is not properly sealed in the corners
The water can sometimes feed along the tops of the shelves & then dribble down roughly opposite the hatches. In the scheme of things it is no great hassle to us as it has only happened 3 or 4 times in 8 years. But it does beg the question WHY???
Fortunately we do not get this very often as the hanse 312 is an extremely dry boat unless it is an awkward chop
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Having just sailed from Poole to Falmouth in four hops in force 6, we also had water sloshing around the bilge, and now the electrics from the shore power trip out as soon as we try to turn them on. I shall have a look under the sink etc. as mentioned by a previous sufferer.
 
We have also been getting a considerable amount of water in the fore cabin, when taking water over the bow and in particularly heavy rain. It can only be coming in the fore hatch. We re-bedded the hatch in the main cabin, and I suspect the fore hatch has also been poorly sealed. We seem to be getting a lot of white powder washing out from somewhere. My suspician is that it is because the screws fixing the hatch have not been sealed, and water is finding it's way into the lining before leaking out again. Has anyone else had a problem.
 
I must say, you would think anyone building a boat would make it water tight as a first priority!
 
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