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    Posted: 03 February 2016 at 12:53
Yes, Frank, I ordered only the steel rub rail and I believe the rail will be mounted in the Netherlands after delivery. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2016 at 06:36
Ad, are you sure that the stainless steel rail is drectly bolted through the hull? ( No way to do lasting adhesive bonding of SS on GRP ).
 
The ones I have seen at the yard in 2013 on the luxury class ( Moody ) were fixed to a wooden rub rail with screws ( like on the photo above ).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ad & José Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2016 at 21:22
Peter,
Hanse will mount a stainless rub rail (only steel, no wooden rail), but I do not know how they do it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 January 2016 at 17:33
I'm looking to put a stainless steel rub rail on. Solid 25mm wide 7mm thick, round, with holes pre drilled.
This is what I see on most Dehlers and Hanses in Düssseldorf.

Has anybody done this themselves yet?

I was wondering wether the screws should go in the hull through and through or not.

Preferable not, depending on the thickness of the hull at that point.

Any experience out there?

Peter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ad & José Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 January 2016 at 12:03
Dear Ida and others,
I believe that we have to close this topic. I still have another question concerning the purchase and use of a code zero on 385. For this subject I will start a new topic. Thanks everyone for the answers and discussions concerning this topic and I am looking forward to receive my new boat at the end of March.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ida Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2016 at 00:00
@ Ad (& José):
It´s indeed strange that my boat starts building this week although I ordered a month later than you.
The main things of my boat are:
We cancelled the order of sprayhood&tent, therefore we took the one like RalfK showed above.
3 cabins
furling main
electric winches
bow thruster
short keel
exits on both sides
big cockpittable
rub rails (not from hanse) :



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ad & José Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2016 at 22:45
Hi all,
Thanks for all the information. I started this questions concerning the additional options and it is good to read all the replies and useful discussions. Especially for me because this is our first boat. We hired for 6 years several sailing ships as well in the Netherlands as in Croatia, for instance Bavaria 34, 44, 37, Elan 384, Jeanneau 36i, Hanse 385 and Dehler 38. The Dehler 38 has certainly the best sailing characteristics, but I am 63 years old and therefore we choose for a boat more easy to handle and fun to sail (as Gaia was saying) or you can also say that we had chosen for the thicker sister of the Dehler 38 with a more beautiful interior and saloon (I do not like the round cabinets and the too small hull portlights of the Dehler).     

I ordered already the rub rail (only steel, I do not like the wooden rub rail) and the guard rail with exits. Further I did not order the electrical winches, I see already the soil of the treasury and the strict look of my wive. I stay as well with the standard light system. Yes, Ralph I have ordered a bow thruster. I ordered the sprayhood and cockpittent as well. However, this will be made by De vries sails after the boat is delivered in the Netherlands and after we have discussed our wishes. 

Ida, strange that the already started with your boat, I ordered my boat in August and the dealer was saying a to me 2 weeks ago that they start to build half February and the delivery will be end of March.   

Ralph (Wind pearl), we will start sailing on the IJsselmeer and later sailing to Belgium and England, please look at a Hanse 385 with an orange gennaker (produced by Hagoort Sails), we still looking for a name of the boat. Maybe we will meet each other.           
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RalphK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2016 at 15:31
Ida,

I agree to Fendants comment, you should not order the sprayhood and others from the factory, too many in between.
As said I ordered at www.tuchwerkstatt.de, they are based at Greifswald in line of view of the factory but not linked to. I paid 4.000 € for all, sprayhood, bimini and cockpit tent including installation and am very happy with the quality, I'll send a PM with a copy to you.  The bimini is specified up to 6 bft. wind, and looks very convincing.
I ordered maybe 4 or 6 weeks before Wind Pearl was supposed to be handed over. They installed the sprayhood already on the day of the hand over, took all necessary data / distances for the bimini / cockpit tent the next day and delivered the whole thing one week later at Rostock where I had sailed to in between. Maybe now as they have all the data they probably wont need the week in between anymore.
The downside is that you don't have the sailmaker close to your home but the upside is that you already have it on your transfer sailing.

Take care.

Ralph
 


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I would not order the sprayhood and the cockpit tent from the Hanse Yard. Their local supplier is clearly substandard in terms of material quality and workmanship. This was one of my lessons learned in 2013.
Hanse seems to be very shy to accept these canvas faults. They never accepted that the lazy bag was too small ( I had to pay the bill for a fixingt his ) and reluctantly supplied a bigger mast hood after numerous interventions by my dealer 1 year (!) later.
 
I don't know where you are based, but I would order canvas work from a local supplier, who uses Quality material like Sunbrella (r), and installs everything himself. If you have any issues he will be around quickly and sort them out.
 
I did this with my Bimini, he designed it with input from me , produced it,  installed it and even repaired a defective zipper one year later without any charge. The design and the quality has caught the attention of some other Hanse owners, who have now ordered for their boats as well.
 
If you have any more questions, just PM me with a contact number.
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ida Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2016 at 07:40
Hallo Ralph,
thank you for your very useful informations. Although my dealer promised me to inform me about 6 weeks before the start of construction, yesterday I got an email that next week the construction starts. Becaus I trusted to make many important decisions about the equipment in Düsseldorf at the "boot" I´m now forced to make decisions based only on theory.

The Hanse-price for sprayhood and a small cockpittent (ends in front of helms) is about 5000,-€. It would be helpful to know what the price of yours was.


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