vuurschepen race and North Sea Race

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   We have competed last weekend on the North Sea with our Hanse 370 Together. 
We raced from Scheveningen To Harwich (110 Nm ) in 15 hour and 5 min.
We than had a avarage speed from 7,2 knots and in the longest part a speed from between 8 and 9 knots and in surfs 12,2 knots on the log.
We sailed in ORC 3 in the Vuurschepen race and came in first in our class and became 2e on handicap behind a X332.
From Harwich to Scheveningen we had a longer trip from aprox 150 Nm.
We did this in 23 hours and 19 min.
It was a beautiful day only cold in the night.
We came in 2e bout in Schevingen and on hadicap also 2e.
We sailed with standard main sail , standard selftacker , second hand Genua and Spinaker , and actualy did very well.
In the future we still have to mount a featering prop , because the crew were complaning about the noise from the prop being roatated bij the streaming water so they could not sleep wile sailing
greetings Marcel Hanse 370 Together Ned 8145

Edited by alettaenmarcel - 18 May 2010 at 11:38

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alettaenmarcel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 15 August 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1193	Post Options Post Reply Quote alettaenmarcel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: vuurschepen race and North Sea Race Posted: 18 May 2010 at 11:37
	We have competed last weekend on the North Sea with our Hanse 370 Together. We raced from Scheveningen To Harwich (110 Nm ) in 15 hour and 5 min. We than had a avarage speed from 7,2 knots and in the longest part a speed from between 8 and 9 knots and in surfs 12,2 knots on the log. We sailed in ORC 3 in the Vuurschepen race and came in first in our class and became 2e on handicap behind a X332. From Harwich to Scheveningen we had a longer trip from aprox 150 Nm. We did this in 23 hours and 19 min. It was a beautiful day only cold in the night. We came in 2e bout in Schevingen and on hadicap also 2e. We sailed with standard main sail , standard selftacker , second hand Genua and Spinaker , and actualy did very well. In the future we still have to mount a featering prop , because the crew were complaning about the noise from the prop being roatated bij the streaming water so they could not sleep wile sailing greetings Marcel Hanse 370 Together Ned 8145 Edited by alettaenmarcel - 18 May 2010 at 11:38
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neptune Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 26 March 2010 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote neptune Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2010 at 12:06
	Great performance! How many ships where attending?

Oddmund Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 176	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oddmund Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2010 at 15:43
	Ref.:"because the crew were complaning about the noise from the prop being roatated bij the streaming water so they could not sleep wile sailing" The gearhandle should be in a reverse position when you sail so that the propellor does not move. Less stress on the gear + you gain increased speed.
	S/Y Havsula. 370#569

holby Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 18 February 2006 Location: Isle of Man Status: Offline Points: 2287	Post Options Post Reply Quote holby Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2010 at 17:01
	Marcel, Fantastic, well done, the timings look great. Can you put some foto's up. I know what you mean about the prop. @oddmund, interesting thoughts, I do not know as I am no prop expert, but there seems to be two schools of thoughts in UK. 1) put the gear handle in reverse so prop does not move, why reverse and not forward, - the drag will be the same if the prop is not moving as it does not change shape? BUT it does have the advantage of fixing the prop and therefore not wearing out the bearings. 2) by putting in neutral, it allows the prop to rotate in the direction that is of least resistance and so reduces drag when going forward, but has the disadvantage of having continual movement and so wears out the bearing. The above are the arguments that abound club houses up and down the length and breadth of UK, but no assured correct and provable answer comes out on top. As I say I am not a prop engineer, so prehaps there is one in the forum who can clear this up once and for all. Dave
	Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)

Oddmund Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 176	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oddmund Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2010 at 17:28
	Gear position: Forward vs reverse should not matter as far as I can understand, the only thing you want to achieve to to stop the rotation. To memory I think that Yanmar states explicitely in the installation or user manual that it should NOT be in neutral when sailing. As it requires force to turn the propellor the drag will reduce the boatspeed, not much I guess but measurable Im sure
	S/Y Havsula. 370#569

Peter-Blake Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 04 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 2465	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peter-Blake Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2010 at 17:34
	congratultions Marcel, well done.
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Gregor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 11 February 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1254	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gregor Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2010 at 18:09
	Congrats Marcel, well done!! Gregor
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alettaenmarcel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 15 August 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1193	Post Options Post Reply Quote alettaenmarcel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2010 at 06:22
	I have one picture from us sailing , I saw it on the site from the orginisation. In the vuurschepen race 45 ships were racing , and 10 in our class ORC 3 and on the north sea race 65 ships were racing and 7 in our class ORC3 Greetings marcel Edited by alettaenmarcel - 19 May 2010 at 06:24
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holby Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 18 February 2006 Location: Isle of Man Status: Offline Points: 2287	Post Options Post Reply Quote holby Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2010 at 08:43
	Marcel, It looks fantastic, you look as if you are really trucking along. The red boat seems to have had a slight hiccup! Dave
	Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)

holby Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 18 February 2006 Location: Isle of Man Status: Offline Points: 2287	Post Options Post Reply Quote holby Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2010 at 08:50
	@oddmund, I have started a new thread as to the quetion of what to do with the fixed prop whilst sailing, the drag if left to free wheel is less than if fixed in either forward or reverse? BUT it does protect the bearing, when in gear. Dave
	Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)



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