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    Posted: 12 November 2019 at 03:09
Hello everyone, I am in the process of buying H320 (2008). The survey said the rudder is "very wet" and according to him needs to be replaced. His meter showed in the red zone when measured at the lower 50% part of the rudder. Question to the owners: Is this normal? Is it possible to just open up the fiberglass and dry? Will it just get wet anyway the next year?

Second question is about the keel. The same survey said the keel is rusting, trailing edge is splitting. Recommendation is to grind the entire thing to the bare metal and start from scratch by applying barrier coat, etc...etc. Again, question to the owners, has anyone done this? any recommendations?

Third is about plastic on top of the binnacle. the cup holder bottoms are cracked and the water is getting inside the binnacle. I am googling everywhere and cannot find replacement. Can anyone please recommend where I can buy this replacement?

Thanks a lot!
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Hi,
All these issues are quite usual on a 10 years old yacht built this way.
1. the foam in the rudder is wet due to water ingress (mainly from top shaft/rudder seal.  This one should be redone sometimes).  Before opening the whole rudder drill 1 or 2 holes at the bottom on both side to allow water to drain during some weeks.  Fill the hole with polyester before bringing back to the water.  Of course a full inspection inside the rudder should be better but it is quite destructive anyway.  In doubt ask Jefa directly
2.  Every steel / cast iron keel will rust after some times.  Best way to solve this issuer is of course grind the entire thing to the bare metal and start from scratch by applying barrier coatS.  But it's time consuming.  You can also treat local rust stain one by one and try to live with it.  But keep in mind that anything you will do it will come back sometimes after.  It is not structural anyway
3. See Jefa website.  As far as i know pedestal on H320 are the 150 model.
Hopes this helps.


Edited by Brufan - 12 November 2019 at 17:40
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Thank you this is very helpful
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If it's the one in Newburyport MA, I looked at it over the summer. 

I wondered about the amount of play or wobble in the rudder post, which could mean that the post is corroded or the bearings need replacing. If your surveyor wasn't worried about it, maybe it's no big deal. But I've tugged on a lot of rudders over the past year of looking at boats and none were as loose as this one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SailCS33 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 November 2019 at 19:08
Yes, thats the one :) Rudder play was about 1/8 of an inch. Rudder post wasnt huge concern for me. Have you looked at anything else in the boat that was a concern?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FTK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2019 at 14:56
Dear SailCS33,

Reagarding the pedestal head. As a factory solution there are two holes in it for draining the water into the pedestal, so it is normal. Btw the bottom of the cup holder is not in a very good condition on mine as well (no cracks, but the surface is not flat) .
If you are intresting to buy a use one I would sell it beause I am searching for the simple one without cup holder and the standard guardrail instead of the extended one (TRS1013).

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Thanks FTK. I will upgrade to the one a larger one so i can install electronics in it.


Found it in US for $552 shipping included. In UK found one for 360 pounds which is about $460 US but shipping is extra
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It seems to be a good solution!
As I would like to change the setup on my boat, I've asked for a quotation from Jefa. They have given EUR 286 + shipping for the large pedestial head (HEAD150-3). Maybe worth it for you to ask them as well.

This is my setup:



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Yes, I called them but they are protecting their only distributor in US (which is really a single person, hehe). They told me I have to buy from US distributor and they will not sell or ship to directly. Very sad that USA market is so difficult to get good quality European boat parts.
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