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    Posted: 27 September 2020 at 20:00
Hi, we are thinking about buying a 3-cabin 388, after having sold our 2-cabin 342. The one with the huge locker on port side. 
That room was quite full of stuff: A folded dinghy, inflatable SUP, spare sails, tools, beverages, all the small stuff from teak cleaner to polish and spare parts... Though the life raft was usually stowed downstairs at the saloon table or attached to the pushpit when sailing offshore. 
Then the aft locker: from bucket to toys and spare sheets and lines....

Looking at the 388 now, I am wondering where to put all this huge and small stuff. Where do you store your...
- lift raft
- Dinghi, 
- SUP, 
- Code-0 / Asym Spi, 
- fenders 
- toolbox 
- spare water bottles and beer cans
- boxes filled with all this small stuff (spare parts)
- fuel tank for outboard engine....

Should I rather keep looking out for an older version H-415? ;-) 
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The 385/388 is a fantastic boat and I'm sure you will love it.

Good luck with the storage.  I had a 385 with single aft cabin.  Not only spoilt by the massive storage area but also the huge galley plus the dedicated life-raft storage which is also AWOL in the 388.

I am in the process of upgrading to a 458 and it has a smaller galley and arguably less (easily accessible) storage.  At least the 458 offers a sizable locker in the bow although I have yet to determine if the access hatch is big enough to get larger items like the folding bike and dinghy into it.

I think the key is to be organised and wherever possible to construct storage shelves or use crates rather than have lots of loose things.

I used the pull out drawer under the sink for all my tools, but then I had the double width drawer for other kitchen items which will be missing in the 3 cabin version...

I can see that my 3rd cabin will almost certainly be used for the cockpit cushions and the Furlstrom.  I will also probably use the wardrobe in the starboard aft cabin for kitchen appliances and probably overflow of food storage.

It may be worth exploring if you can make use of the void behind the aft cabins for lesser used items.  I used to store jerry cans, oil cans and antifoul in there.

Worse case scenario is that you might have to give up the beer!

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Hi Stuart - I donít know if you saw this yesterday.

I have used the storage space behind the aft cabins - boarded out With LED lighting. 

I donít use the large voids under the aft berths though - too tricky to access. 

The forward locker is enormous. Again has LED lighting (and a 12v power supply - yet to be used!) and a false floor. Also cleats on the side for ropes etc. Inflatable tender/code zero/spare water tank/big fenders and much more. Iím fastidious about keeping it dry so NOTHING goes in wet.

Also in the saloon I put false floors over the bigger - below settee - voids to provide extra storage. These are more accessible. And for long term stuff - ie never to be used again - behind the settee back rests.

I use all the voids below the cabin soles. 

The behind aft berths I used on the H400. 

Happy to chat if you wish - hope to get home tonight.

ATB Richard 


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Hi Stuart, do you know the size of a packed Furlstrom for a 388 ? thanks.
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No, I had an asymmetric on my 385.  This was usually a largish duffel bag size, but mostly air so it could be compressed.
The Furlstrom that I referred to is got the new 458 which I will take delivery of next year.  As this will have a torsion luff I anticipate it will be more difficult to pack away, but because it is tightly furled it might take less space.
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Hi Cintra,

We have a 3 cabin 385 with a similar shift from a 2 cabin yacht with deep locker.  The cockpit lockers are bigger than they first imagine with stowage going up into the seat back area so we get wet stuff (mask, snorkels, buckets etc and swim ladder) in one, lines, lifejackets, flares, grab back in other.  Liferaft goes in dedicated stowage which I personally think is good but there's a bit of debate on that within the forum.

The stowage area behind aft cabins is big and dry so spare bedding, gennaker and other soft stuff is stowed in there.  Tools, spare lines, etc go under the aft bunk which always leads to a fair amount of swearing when things are required.

Petrol and spare gas went in anchor locker (but we've now bought a Torqueedo which dispenses with that) and the dingy remains inflated either towed or across the foredeck (the jib will tack if it's positioned carefully). 

There's then enough room under sofas etc for day to day stuff.  

When we want to travel with bikes they go in one aft cabin.

Ideally I'd do like S&J and buy a bigger yacht Smile
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Quote Hi, we are thinking about buying a 3-cabin 388, after having sold our 2-cabin 342. The one with the huge locker on port side. 
That room was quite full of stuff: A folded dinghy, inflatable SUP, spare sails, tools, beverages, all the small stuff from teak cleaner to polish and spare parts... Though the life raft was usually stowed downstairs at the saloon table or attached to the pushpit when sailing offshore. 
Then the aft locker: from bucket to toys and spare sheets and lines....

We have a 3-cabin 388 with six persons aboard. After two seasons of sailing, my comments below :)

Quote Looking at the 388 now, I am wondering where to put all this huge and small stuff. Where do you store your...
- lift raft

This was a difficult one. According to Hanse, the pushpit wasn't suitable for a container install, so we ordered the smallest possible six person valise version. Stored in the starboard aft locker when docked or near the shore. Tied to the cockpit table when offshore.
A short story long: 
https://nakedsailor.blog/2019/03/21/the-life-raft-story/
https://nakedsailor.blog/2019/10/06/hanse-388-deck-storage/

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- Dinghi,

We have a Quicksilver 250 Air Deck. Stored deflated under the boom. It's a bit of work to always inflate / deflate, but it's also good exercise. 
 
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- SUP, 

Don't have this. 

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- Code-0 / Asym Spi, 

We have the standard ElvstrÝm crossover. No great place to store it (bag about 120 cm x 55 cm). While out sailing it's on the deck if it's going to be used, on the saloon couch or floor if not. When moored, it's sometimes in the bow cabin, standing up and leaning on the mirror.

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- fenders

All six standard fenders fit (barely) into the port aft locker. 

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- toolbox 

Lots of storage space under the starboard couch in the saloon. We have the toolbox in the space right forward and below the sink.

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- spare water bottles and beer cans

Same as above. 

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- boxes filled with all this small stuff (spare parts)

The side cabinets (or whatever they are called) in the saloon (or whatever that is called :))

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- fuel tank for outboard engine....

We don't have an outboard, nor fuel tank for it. We have a spare 18l fuel tank in the bow locker, but it's always empty. We're thinking about buying a Torqeedo outboard, though, and I think it should fit in the starboard cockpit bench locker.

At first when we got the boat, it seemed quite difficult to figure out where to put all the stuff. After a while we noticed that there are a lot of empty places all over the boat. AND, obviously, the less stuff we have, the better it sails, so we try to move stuff out of the boat instead of into it nowadays.

Good luck!
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