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    Posted: 02 December 2021 at 16:46
 Hi, has anyone bought a Code 0 or other similar for lighter winds upwind and reaching to improve performance? What true winds angles can you achieve and what type make did you go for please?
I have cruising chute on my 388 but would like to have a semi permanent second headsail for quick setting.

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we had the furlstrom ordered with the boat from Elvestrom.  It will go slightly upwind but we use it mostly for reaching and downwind sailing, as it furls up we tend to keep it flying longer than we would if we had to douse it from the foredeck.  We goosewing it for dead downwind too.

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I have a North Sails G Zero Genneker which I can use in light winds quite close to the wind. If you want something a bit more "permanent" and upwind orientated then Crusader Sails do a "Super zero" which may fit the bill. In any event it sounds like you will need a laminate fabric rather than nylon.
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Many thanks, yes I have a Furlstrom too and find it a really good sail downwind and easy to furl.
I am now looking to improve performance upwind/reaching in light airs and also less humping a heavy sail on deck with my bad back!

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I don't know that anything on a torsion luff with continuous line furler will be secure enough to rig permanently, but agree that the Crusader offering may be the best option for you.  I spoke with them about this myself but eventually went for the Furlstrom.  If nothing else they may be able to advise on other furling arrangements, possibly to create a Solent type rig.
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Hi Matt
Thats interesting a code Zero, is that a nylon sail?
I have been offered a laminate Code 65 by North to be good enough to furl tight and have a UV strip so I can leave it up longer.
Elvstrom are also looking into a more permanent laminate sail for me too, just waiting to hear back.

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Hi Tony - yes mine is nylon, even so it’s pretty heavy and awkward to get past the sprayhood up the foredeck. Obviously the weight is mainly the torsion line, top swivel and furler. I’ve had problems with it coming unfurled upwind but probably my fault for not furling it tight enough (can be hard to do singlehanded). A laminate sail will be heavier still of course, but maybe not so much if you have North’s “helix” luff which dispenses with the torsion line?

As a side comment I’ve been very happy with North and they were surprisingly good value when I got quotes (which was surprising for an apparent “premium” brand)

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Hi Matt - that's interesting , similar issues to me! The nylon sail is too loose to leave up in any wind and I was thinking of seeing the sail stowed onto the coachroof to be. little closer to the bow.

Ultimately I am now looking for a sail to permanently leave hoisted and have a double headsail rig which means a polyester Code 0 and Peter on Monzano was very helpful with a Quantum option. Im just being up between North, Elvstrom, Quantm and Crusader so plenty to go on!  Trouble is you never get to see one before you buy it to be sure it works how you want.

Many thanks for your input
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Might not make much difference, but I leave my Furlstrom furling drum and the continuous line permanently rigged.  When not using the sail I attach the spinnaker halyard directly to it.
Also leave my spinnaker sheets permanently rigged 
I'm fortunate that the sail itself fits into the bow locker on the 458.
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Hi Tony,

We bought a very nice Code Zero at Hagoort Sails in The Netherlands. 
Furler: Facnor +1500 with endless line. 

Upwind angle in very light winds upto 40 degrees
Upwind in moderate air 60 degrees
Downwind in moderate breeze upto 150 degrees

This sails so much easier than a gennaker.

Extra's: Halyard 2:1 plus addtional tensioner for extra strengthening 







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