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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ratbasher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2019 at 20:01
I think you may have solved your own problem. A tricolour at the masthead, rather than deck-mounted lights, is a better light to show at sea as it stands clear of waves and surface effects, particularly when your vessel is heeled. As suggested above, the shine from the white arc should illuminate your Windex nicely. Revert to deck-mounted nav lights when close to land to reduce confusion with background lights. It should be quite easy to fit a combined tricolour/anchor light onto the existing bracket at the masthead.

Although the loom from a dedicated Windex LED may be small, if you were to have an accident where someone was hurt or a vessel badly damaged then an investigation board will certainly identify any non-standard lighting. You then run the risk that that may be considered a contributory factor - and the further risk that your insurance company may refuse all liability on the basis that you made a fitting that contravened COLREGS. As you say you're taking part in regatta night-sailing then the chances of such a collision aren't perhaps that small....


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peter Russell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2019 at 20:03
Are not the hypothetical arguments of the bulb being regarded as a navigation light rather excessive?

If, say, a 10lm LED was installed on the mast top facing upwards with 102deg angle the only thing that is going to see that would be an aircraft.

10lm is less that a single candle flame outputs and, for all intents, would be invisible at 400m - in a marine setting probably at a much lower distance.

And, by the way, Windex do sell a lamp for just such a purpose which, I assume, meets any statutory requirements!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rubato Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2019 at 20:55
I agree with Peter, a very dim LED is not going to be interpreted as anything at any distance as it won't be seen. I understand the arguments for a masthead tri-colour but I will also throw this thought out there - the closer boats are, the less chance there is of seeing a masthead tri-colour. If a boat with a masthead tri-colour is close to you, you have to be looking up at the sky to see them.  This is particularly a problem racing at night close to cities where there are a multitude of lights around you. Much easier to notice water level nav lights...  in my experience anyway.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ratbasher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2019 at 22:23
I appreciate those arguments and as I said, such chances are slight and deck-level lights are indeed better close to land. However, having come across the UK's Marine Accident Investigation Branch's reports on quite a few occasions in a past life I still maintain that in the UK at least, any non-standard lighting would certainly be examined for contributing factors in any accident. Insurance companies are indeed notorious for denying liability.

The basic point I was making to Gaga was to ask if it was worth the (admittedly slight risk) when there was a potentially better solution out there, which was to fit a tricolour? Its perfectly acceptable just to use deck-level nav lights but a tricolour has advantages; as with everything onboard its up to the Skipper's judgement.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angelina Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2019 at 04:05
I have just fitted a new led aquasignal combination anchor and tricolour light as replacement
of the standard Hanse fitted light.
I can assure you neither illuminates
the windex. Unfortunately!
Have you ever seen Ships at night?
No matter if ferries, cruise ships, cargo ships,
tankers. Small or large. They are all lit
up like christmas trees. Deck lights, fantasy
lights, the works.
You really think a little windex
candle does any harm?
Paint the sides black. All you need is
a tiny bit of shine to the top.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gaga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2019 at 19:07
hint from GUNNAR on  9 october - WORKED PERFECT.

A MILLION THANKS, And again this forum proved worth a lot.



On my Gaga the Previous owners had mixed the wiring 
For top of mast the CORRECT wiring shall be

Boat   -  mast

Blue  = Blue

Yellow = Brown

Green = Green/yellow

This way anchor light works on correct switch
And Windex light works on tri-color switch

Thanks again and happy Sailing to everybody









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