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    Posted: 26 June 2020 at 18:39
Dear all

I just received my new selfsteering jib from M Sails sailmaker in Netherland

My opinion is: this jib is not correctly cut

Of course, his opinion is totally different. I'm sellingt thousands of sails yearly and you do not know what your are talking about. More over your genuine Northsail sails are bull sh*t

My ancient jib is going quite as far as the jibrail. Max 5cm
His jib is as far as 30cm from the rail

Would you have pictures of your jib?
If you have a new one, where did you buy it?

Mant thanks for your help

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My boat is a  2003-311 so our self tackers should be similar sizes. I wanted to get a racing certificate & asked the sailmakers for the relevant dimensions of the sails that they had supplied so that I could fill in the forms. I do not have a clue what the abreviations mean The luff dimensions are obviously 11.56 for the Hyde & 11.6 for the Ultimate. The point is that it demonstrates the sizes of 2 other sailmakers other than North sails.

I do not have a picture of the clew of the sail when near the track but if it is important to you, I will take one in the next couple of days & post it. I would suggest that your sail maker has made a dimensional error. However, much depends on what you ordered & how you ordered it.

I Have no idea if this will help but here they are anyway.

These are the dimensions for the jib from Hyde sail

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Luff 11560 LP 2780,  1310, 630, 7/8 320


These are the dimensions from my Ultimate sail
LL=11.6m

LP=2.86m

HHW=1.47m

HTW=0.76m

HUW=0.41m

HHB=0.060m

HSA=16.19m2

I sincerly hope that you resolve the problem because one will never be happy sailing with a sail that is not what one wants





Edited by samuel - 27 June 2020 at 07:50
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hello Samuel

I would be very happy with your pictures

Camille

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just posted a picture of Echo, not a great picture but as you can see the clew is very close to the block. When I had this sail made, the sailmaker came to the boat and measured. 

Some sail makers I spoke to wanted to make the sail from measurements from Hanse and not visit the boat at all, I was not happy with this and used a sailmaker who came and measured.
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greaaaaat

This proofs exactly what I want

Is it the Zeelandbrug ??

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It's actually the Pont De Re. Just North of La Rochelle. It's the only picture I can find of sailing Echo with the job sheeted in hard. 
I don't think your sail looks right. Is it the correct length in the luff?
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Realy looks like the looooooooooong Zeelandbrug in Netherland

I'm satisfied with your jib picture

Just hoping I'll get some more from other Hanse owners

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Salut Camille,

here is a photo on my 345. Your "sailmaker expert" is lying to you.


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